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Podcast · Through the Fire · Episode 166

A Smarter Way to Eliminate Debt and Build Wealth

Ron Harris joins Through the Fire for episode 166 to explain how a household can clear its debt years early and turn the interest it was paying into an asset it owns.

Ron Harris talks with the host of Through the Fire about why working families stay in debt, how banks use a household's payments, and the step-by-step plan from The New American Dream: clear the mortgage in years instead of decades, redirect the interest into tax-advantaged savings, and draw income you can't outlive.

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