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Podcast · The Measuring Post with Joe Massa · Episode 65

Debt to Wealth with Ron Harris

Joe Massa hosts Ron Harris on The Measuring Post, episode 65, for a conversation on moving a family from debt to wealth with the tools banks have always used.

On The Measuring Post, Joe Massa and Ron Harris walk through the road from debt to wealth: what banks do with a family's money, what changed in the tax code in 2021, and how a household builds its own balance sheet on the budget it already has.

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Hardcover, paperback, Kindle and audiobook. Out October 15, 2026.